Как правильно водить мобов. Ликбез для начинающих и неочень.
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кстати берс тоже не такой плохой для вождения, тем более сейчас клиранс его снимает
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@eat-my lalaka:
В юпе у мобов маленький выбор скиллов,у скиллов маленький шанс срабатывания,скиллы убоги по силе и не имеют никакой анимации - вот и водится там легко.Если 100пд чаром в юпе собрать ~50-60 венату,не бить их,остановится и оставить чара минут на 5(скажем выйти покурить),то по возвращению чар будет жив?
нет не будет, но где то минуту мб даже полторы можешь смело постоять -
Короче вы меня вынудили счекаутить себе свежую ea и вот что:
! [code:1tho6be6]
! 1713,Acidus@NPC_FIREATTACK,attack,186,6,500,500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1713,Acidus@NPC_CRITICALSLASH,attack,170,1,1000,500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1713,Acidus@NPC_STUNATTACK,attack,179,5,1000,1500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1713,Acidus@MG_FIREBALL,idle,17,9,2000,0,5000,yes,randomtarget,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1713,Acidus@MG_FIREBALL,chase,17,9,2000,0,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,44,
! 1713,Acidus@SM_MAGNUM,attack,7,9,2000,500,5000,no,self,attackpcge,2,,,,,,36,
! 1713,Acidus@WZ_FIREPILLAR,idle,80,3,100,0,30000,yes,around2,always,0,,,,,,32,
! 1713,Acidus@AL_TELEPORT,idle,26,1,10000,0,0,yes,self,rudeattacked,,,,,,,,
! 1714,Ferus@NPC_EMOTION,idle,197,1,2000,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,32,,,,,,
! 1714,Ferus@KN_BRANDISHSPEAR,attack,57,20,500,1000,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,9,
! 1714,Ferus@NPC_FIREATTACK,attack,186,5,500,500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1714,Ferus@NPC_COMBOATTACK,attack,171,2,500,700,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1714,Ferus@NPC_EMOTION,chase,197,1,200,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,19,0x81,,,,,
! 1714,Ferus@NPC_EMOTION,idle,197,1,2000,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,36,0x3095,,,,,
! 1714,Ferus@NPC_CRITICALSLASH,attack,170,1,500,500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1714,Ferus@KN_SPEARSTAB,attack,58,10,500,800,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,6,
! 1714,Ferus@AL_TELEPORT,idle,26,1,10000,0,0,yes,self,rudeattacked,,,,,,,,
! 1715,Novus@NPC_EMOTION,idle,197,1,2000,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,22,,,,,,
! 1715,Novus@NPC_COMBOATTACK,attack,171,1,500,700,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1715,Novus@SM_BASH,attack,5,5,500,500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1715,Novus@NPC_PIERCINGATT,attack,158,2,500,0,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1715,Novus@NPC_BLOODDRAIN,attack,199,1,500,0,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,37,
! 1716,Acidus@NPC_WINDATTACK,attack,187,6,500,500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1716,Acidus@NPC_STOP,attack,342,1,500,500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1716,Acidus@MG_LIGHTNINGBOLT,idle,20,8,2000,1000,5000,yes,randomtarget,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1716,Acidus@MG_LIGHTNINGBOLT,chase,20,8,1000,1000,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,32,
! 1716,Acidus@MG_LIGHTNINGBOLT,attack,20,8,1000,1000,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1716,Acidus@MG_THUNDERSTORM,attack,21,9,1000,1000,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1716,Acidus@MG_THUNDERSTORM,attack,21,9,2000,1000,5000,no,target,attackpcge,2,,,,,,6,
! 1716,Acidus@AL_TELEPORT,idle,26,1,10000,0,0,yes,self,rudeattacked,,,,,,,,
! 1717,Ferus@NPC_EMOTION,chase,197,1,2000,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,32,,,,,,
! 1717,Ferus@KN_BRANDISHSPEAR,attack,57,20,500,1000,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,9,
! 1717,Ferus@SM_PROVOKE,chase,6,10,2000,600,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,44,
! 1717,Ferus@NPC_GROUNDATTACK,attack,185,5,500,500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1717,Ferus@NPC_COMBOATTACK,attack,171,2,500,700,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1717,Ferus@NPC_PIERCINGATT,attack,158,5,500,0,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1717,Ferus@KN_SPEARSTAB,attack,58,10,500,800,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,6,
! 1717,Ferus@AL_TELEPORT,idle,26,1,10000,0,0,yes,self,rudeattacked,,,,,,,,[/code:1tho6be6]! [code:1tho6be6]1675,Venatu@NPC_SILENCEATTACK,attack,178,3,500,700,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1675,Venatu@NPC_GUIDEDATTACK,attack,172,3,500,1000,20000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,6,
! 1675,Venatu@NPC_STUNATTACK,attack,179,2,500,1500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,11,
! 1675,Venatu@NPC_FIREATTACK,attack,186,3,500,0,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1675,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,chase,197,1,100,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,7,0x81,,,,,
! 1675,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,idle,197,1,2000,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,0,0x3095,,,,,
! 1676,Venatu@NPC_SLEEPATTACK,attack,182,3,500,0,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1676,Venatu@NPC_GUIDEDATTACK,attack,172,3,500,1000,20000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,6,
! 1676,Venatu@NPC_STUNATTACK,attack,179,2,500,1500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,11,
! 1676,Venatu@AL_TELEPORT,idle,26,1,10000,0,0,yes,self,rudeattacked,,,,,,,,
! 1676,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,chase,197,1,100,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,7,0x81,,,,,
! 1676,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,idle,197,1,2000,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,0,0x3095,,,,,
! 1677,Venatu@NPC_BLINDATTACK,attack,177,3,500,0,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1677,Venatu@NPC_GUIDEDATTACK,attack,172,3,500,1000,20000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,6,
! 1677,Venatu@NPC_STUNATTACK,attack,179,2,500,1500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,11,
! 1677,Venatu@AL_TELEPORT,idle,26,1,10000,0,0,yes,self,rudeattacked,,,,,,,,
! 1677,Venatu@NPC_WINDATTACK,attack,187,3,500,0,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1677,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,chase,197,1,100,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,7,0x81,,,,,
! 1677,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,idle,197,1,2000,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,0,0x3095,,,,,
! 1678,Venatu@NPC_RANDOMATTACK,attack,183,3,500,500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1678,Venatu@NPC_GUIDEDATTACK,attack,172,3,500,1000,20000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,6,
! 1678,Venatu@NPC_STUNATTACK,attack,179,2,500,1500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,11,
! 1678,Venatu@AL_TELEPORT,idle,26,1,10000,0,0,yes,self,rudeattacked,,,,,,,,
! 1678,Venatu@NPC_GROUNDATTACK,attack,185,3,500,0,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1678,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,chase,197,1,100,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,7,0x81,,,,,
! 1678,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,idle,197,1,2000,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,0,0x3095,,,,,
! 1679,Venatu@NPC_GUIDEDATTACK,attack,172,3,500,1000,20000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,6,
! 1679,Venatu@NPC_STUNATTACK,attack,179,2,500,1500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,11,
! 1679,Venatu@AL_TELEPORT,idle,26,1,10000,0,0,yes,self,rudeattacked,,,,,,,,
! 1679,Venatu@NPC_WATERATTACK,attack,184,3,500,0,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1679,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,chase,197,1,100,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,7,0x81,,,,,
! 1679,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,idle,197,1,2000,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,0,0x3095,,,,,[/code:1tho6be6]! [code:1tho6be6]//MOB_ID,dummy value (info only),STATE,SKILL_ID,SKILL_LV,rate (10000 = 100%),casttime,delay,cancelable,target,condition type,condition value,val1,val2,val3,val4,val5,emotion,chat
! [/code:1tho6be6]Из чего следует, что мобы в абиссе таки юзают скиллы в чейзе, а мобы в юпе нет и я скорее всего прав.
И самое забавное:
! [code:1tho6be6]enum MobSkillState {
! MSS_ANY = -1,
! MSS_IDLE,
! MSS_WALK,
! MSS_LOOT,
! MSS_DEAD,
! MSS_BERSERK, //Aggressive mob attacking
! MSS_ANGRY, //Mob retaliating from being attacked.
! MSS_RUSH, //Mob following a player after being attacked.
! MSS_FOLLOW, //Mob following a player without being attacked.
! MSS_ANYTARGET,
! };[/code:1tho6be6]Так что что там за attack еще надо подумать.
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@"drinkermann":
Короче вы меня вынудили счекаутить себе свежую ea и вот что:! [code:1dua14kc]
! 1713,Acidus@NPC_FIREATTACK,attack,186,6,500,500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1713,Acidus@NPC_CRITICALSLASH,attack,170,1,1000,500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1713,Acidus@NPC_STUNATTACK,attack,179,5,1000,1500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1713,Acidus@MG_FIREBALL,idle,17,9,2000,0,5000,yes,randomtarget,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1713,Acidus@MG_FIREBALL,chase,17,9,2000,0,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,44,
! 1713,Acidus@SM_MAGNUM,attack,7,9,2000,500,5000,no,self,attackpcge,2,,,,,,36,
! 1713,Acidus@WZ_FIREPILLAR,idle,80,3,100,0,30000,yes,around2,always,0,,,,,,32,
! 1713,Acidus@AL_TELEPORT,idle,26,1,10000,0,0,yes,self,rudeattacked,,,,,,,,
! 1714,Ferus@NPC_EMOTION,idle,197,1,2000,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,32,,,,,,
! 1714,Ferus@KN_BRANDISHSPEAR,attack,57,20,500,1000,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,9,
! 1714,Ferus@NPC_FIREATTACK,attack,186,5,500,500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1714,Ferus@NPC_COMBOATTACK,attack,171,2,500,700,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1714,Ferus@NPC_EMOTION,chase,197,1,200,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,19,0x81,,,,,
! 1714,Ferus@NPC_EMOTION,idle,197,1,2000,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,36,0x3095,,,,,
! 1714,Ferus@NPC_CRITICALSLASH,attack,170,1,500,500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1714,Ferus@KN_SPEARSTAB,attack,58,10,500,800,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,6,
! 1714,Ferus@AL_TELEPORT,idle,26,1,10000,0,0,yes,self,rudeattacked,,,,,,,,
! 1715,Novus@NPC_EMOTION,idle,197,1,2000,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,22,,,,,,
! 1715,Novus@NPC_COMBOATTACK,attack,171,1,500,700,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1715,Novus@SM_BASH,attack,5,5,500,500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1715,Novus@NPC_PIERCINGATT,attack,158,2,500,0,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1715,Novus@NPC_BLOODDRAIN,attack,199,1,500,0,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,37,
! 1716,Acidus@NPC_WINDATTACK,attack,187,6,500,500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1716,Acidus@NPC_STOP,attack,342,1,500,500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1716,Acidus@MG_LIGHTNINGBOLT,idle,20,8,2000,1000,5000,yes,randomtarget,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1716,Acidus@MG_LIGHTNINGBOLT,chase,20,8,1000,1000,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,32,
! 1716,Acidus@MG_LIGHTNINGBOLT,attack,20,8,1000,1000,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1716,Acidus@MG_THUNDERSTORM,attack,21,9,1000,1000,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1716,Acidus@MG_THUNDERSTORM,attack,21,9,2000,1000,5000,no,target,attackpcge,2,,,,,,6,
! 1716,Acidus@AL_TELEPORT,idle,26,1,10000,0,0,yes,self,rudeattacked,,,,,,,,
! 1717,Ferus@NPC_EMOTION,chase,197,1,2000,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,32,,,,,,
! 1717,Ferus@KN_BRANDISHSPEAR,attack,57,20,500,1000,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,9,
! 1717,Ferus@SM_PROVOKE,chase,6,10,2000,600,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,44,
! 1717,Ferus@NPC_GROUNDATTACK,attack,185,5,500,500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1717,Ferus@NPC_COMBOATTACK,attack,171,2,500,700,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1717,Ferus@NPC_PIERCINGATT,attack,158,5,500,0,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1717,Ferus@KN_SPEARSTAB,attack,58,10,500,800,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,6,
! 1717,Ferus@AL_TELEPORT,idle,26,1,10000,0,0,yes,self,rudeattacked,,,,,,,,[/code:1dua14kc]! [code:1dua14kc]1675,Venatu@NPC_SILENCEATTACK,attack,178,3,500,700,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1675,Venatu@NPC_GUIDEDATTACK,attack,172,3,500,1000,20000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,6,
! 1675,Venatu@NPC_STUNATTACK,attack,179,2,500,1500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,11,
! 1675,Venatu@NPC_FIREATTACK,attack,186,3,500,0,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1675,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,chase,197,1,100,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,7,0x81,,,,,
! 1675,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,idle,197,1,2000,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,0,0x3095,,,,,
! 1676,Venatu@NPC_SLEEPATTACK,attack,182,3,500,0,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1676,Venatu@NPC_GUIDEDATTACK,attack,172,3,500,1000,20000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,6,
! 1676,Venatu@NPC_STUNATTACK,attack,179,2,500,1500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,11,
! 1676,Venatu@AL_TELEPORT,idle,26,1,10000,0,0,yes,self,rudeattacked,,,,,,,,
! 1676,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,chase,197,1,100,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,7,0x81,,,,,
! 1676,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,idle,197,1,2000,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,0,0x3095,,,,,
! 1677,Venatu@NPC_BLINDATTACK,attack,177,3,500,0,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1677,Venatu@NPC_GUIDEDATTACK,attack,172,3,500,1000,20000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,6,
! 1677,Venatu@NPC_STUNATTACK,attack,179,2,500,1500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,11,
! 1677,Venatu@AL_TELEPORT,idle,26,1,10000,0,0,yes,self,rudeattacked,,,,,,,,
! 1677,Venatu@NPC_WINDATTACK,attack,187,3,500,0,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1677,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,chase,197,1,100,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,7,0x81,,,,,
! 1677,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,idle,197,1,2000,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,0,0x3095,,,,,
! 1678,Venatu@NPC_RANDOMATTACK,attack,183,3,500,500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1678,Venatu@NPC_GUIDEDATTACK,attack,172,3,500,1000,20000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,6,
! 1678,Venatu@NPC_STUNATTACK,attack,179,2,500,1500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,11,
! 1678,Venatu@AL_TELEPORT,idle,26,1,10000,0,0,yes,self,rudeattacked,,,,,,,,
! 1678,Venatu@NPC_GROUNDATTACK,attack,185,3,500,0,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1678,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,chase,197,1,100,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,7,0x81,,,,,
! 1678,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,idle,197,1,2000,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,0,0x3095,,,,,
! 1679,Venatu@NPC_GUIDEDATTACK,attack,172,3,500,1000,20000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,6,
! 1679,Venatu@NPC_STUNATTACK,attack,179,2,500,1500,5000,no,target,always,0,,,,,,11,
! 1679,Venatu@AL_TELEPORT,idle,26,1,10000,0,0,yes,self,rudeattacked,,,,,,,,
! 1679,Venatu@NPC_WATERATTACK,attack,184,3,500,0,5000,yes,target,always,0,,,,,,,
! 1679,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,chase,197,1,100,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,7,0x81,,,,,
! 1679,Venatu@NPC_EMOTION,idle,197,1,2000,0,5000,yes,self,always,0,0,0x3095,,,,,[/code:1dua14kc]Из чего следует, что мобы в абиссе таки юзают скиллы в чейзе, а мобы в юпе нет и я скорее всего прав.
И самое забавное:
! [code:1dua14kc]enum MobSkillState {
! MSS_ANY = -1,
! MSS_IDLE,
! MSS_WALK,
! MSS_LOOT,
! MSS_DEAD,
! MSS_BERSERK, //Aggressive mob attacking
! MSS_ANGRY, //Mob retaliating from being attacked.
! MSS_RUSH, //Mob following a player after being attacked.
! MSS_FOLLOW, //Mob following a player without being attacked.
! MSS_ANYTARGET,
! };[/code:1dua14kc]Так что что там за attack еще надо подумать.
эт ты где нарыл? -
Icelemon, У клиренса шанс 100% только на 5ом лвле, у бишей он появится на 40+ джобе, судя по топу хп 40+ джоб бывает на 148+ лвле(для бишей качающихся в абисе). А 5ый его можно вкачать либо не качая дерево(только 1ое проходное), либо не качая 5 хай хил.
В опщем у большинства бишей он будет либо 1ый либо его не будет. Шанс 1ого 68%. Задержка 10 секунд. А с учетом того, что многие играют без эффектов, еще и не сразу видно, что ты в берсе.К чему я это веду: не водите в берсе - не бесите бишей!!
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eat my lalaka, если только венату и если не побитых, то будешь жив
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drinkermann,да,в чейзе мобы могут юзать некоторые скиллы. Некоторые скиллы юзаются и в чейзе,и в атаке. Некоторые юзаются только в атаке. Я,как и Китракс,лишь говорил,что некоторые мобы юзают свои атак-онли скиллы в состоянии,которое ты обозначил как "чейз". И на основании этих наблюдений и была оспорена твоя теория...
Кто же на самом деле прав я уже хз
Предлагаю "боевую" ничью с пометкой "либо базы пиндят,либо в ро туева хуча глюкобагов" хD -
Scarlettt,
ок ок, благо мне уже нигде мобов водить не надо -
drinkermann, лень разгребать циферки без легенды. ты бы хоть линк дал
на рмс так и есть, в абиссе в чейзе скиллами бьют, в юпе только при атаке
инфу под 3-м спойлером вообще не видел, любопытно -
Дополнил первый пост.
Keethrax, да там не важны циферки, мне лень их стирать было.
Aggressive Soul, счекаутил исходники с официального репозитария еафины.
ЗЫ: обсуждение скатились в непонятные дали оффтопа. Скоро почищу. -
Актуален ли сейчас ходгремлин ?
